# Abandoning the sinking BI ship

**URL:** <https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480>\
**Category:** INVESTIGATORS\
**Created:** [December 17, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480 "2019-12-17T13:51:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MEATBALL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MEATBALL](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/MEATBALL)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/1 "2019-12-17T13:51:51Z")

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Today is my last day as An FI. I’ve enjoyed my time but the lack of 40 hours a week and being out of vacation time and living on leave without pay has driven me to the point of past due bills. Moving to private sector DoD company working in the security office. Good luck everyone.

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**Author:** ![quickfix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ea666f/32.png) [@quickfix](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/quickfix)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/2 "2019-12-17T16:21:27Z")

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Good luck with the new position. I’m just an IC but also can no longer go with zero to significantly reduced loads. Finalizing a startup business hopefully around Feb or March and I will be happy to leave the clearance world… Again good luck to you…

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**Author:** ![RB22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@RB22](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/RB22)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/3 "2019-12-17T16:56:34Z")

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Congrats on your new job!

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**Author:** ![OleMSgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3be4f8/32.png) [@OleMSgt](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/OleMSgt)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/4 "2019-12-17T17:00:18Z")

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Meatball - I’m sure that you ( like me) will have NO regrets about leaving the BI Industry.

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**Author:** ![Duetooversight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Duetooversight](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Duetooversight)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/5 "2019-12-17T19:02:34Z")

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What type of start up business?

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**Author:** ![Thequestionsarenorm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/thequestionsarenorm/32/266_2.png) [@Thequestionsarenorm](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Thequestionsarenorm)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/6 "2019-12-18T15:37:38Z")

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Congratulations! I’m just waiting for an offer and I will be joining you on the leaving the Bu world journey! Ten plus years and I’m sad, but I have a family

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**Author:** ![discrepant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@discrepant](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/discrepant)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/7 "2019-12-18T20:29:31Z")

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Judging from the verbiage in the recent NDAA many more staff will soon be following.

It’s been quite and I’m interested to see how management reacts once the NDAA is signed.

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**Author:** ![RB22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@RB22](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/RB22)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/8 "2019-12-18T22:10:52Z")

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What changes might NDAA cause in the BI world?

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**Author:** ![Duetooversight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Duetooversight](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Duetooversight)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/9 "2019-12-19T00:33:16Z")

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What is NDAA? Nondisclosure?

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**Author:** ![sideshowbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sideshowbob](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sideshowbob)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/10 "2019-12-19T00:45:56Z")

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Which specific verbiage are you referring to in the [National Defense Authorization Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2500/text#toc-HADDFC11EDAFB48ABA061F54B3A760C94)?

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**Author:** ![Skybox](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/skybox/32/496_2.png) [@Skybox](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Skybox)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/11 "2019-12-19T01:07:37Z")

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Congrats to all on the new chapter and good luck!

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**Author:** ![Unabletoprovide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@Unabletoprovide](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Unabletoprovide)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/12 "2019-12-19T01:32:53Z")

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The NDAA is several hundred pages long. Can you be more specific?

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**Author:** ![discrepant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@discrepant](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/discrepant)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/13 "2019-12-19T02:08:57Z")

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The NDAA calls for only 10% of the cleared population to be subject to periodic reinvestigations by Dec. 2021. It plans to replace periodic reinvestigations with continuous vetting techniques.

A plan within 90 days that describes how government will reduce the security clearance inventory to steady state of roughly 200,000 by the end of 2020.

Simplify the SF-86, use central hubs, and remote techniques to support or replace field investigation work. Build the capacity of the background investigation workforce.

Things will definitely continue to change.

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**Author:** ![discrepant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@discrepant](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/discrepant)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/14 "2019-12-19T02:09:04Z")

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The National Defense Authorization Act ( **NDAA** ) is the name for each of a series of United States federal laws specifying the annual budget and expenditures of the U.S. Department of Defense. The first **NDAA** was passed in 1961.

NDAA happens every year and it is where DOD was given the authority to study taking over BI. I guess you could say it was were DCSA was born.

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**Author:** ![Watchurbk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Watchurbk](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Watchurbk)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/15 "2019-12-19T03:32:08Z")

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That would be very unfortunate. I believe face to face interviews are a must. I develop information on a great percentage of my interviews. I guess the issues are just not important anymore.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Costantini](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/joe_costantini/32/586_2.png) [@Joe\_Costantini](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Joe_Costantini)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/16 "2019-12-19T14:06:19Z")

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I left too I tried it, and some aspects were good others terrible. But I had the opposite work experience, meaning I was a contractor paid per event. So they would refill after refile, taking my time and getting their work done for free essentially I’d start out with a boat load of files finish my work then the following week it would all get sent back with a laundry list of new (free for them) tasks to take care of. I was overworked under paid and living off savings to stay on top of my bills. I went back to real estate where I was before, and I just hooked up with First Command Financial Services that do financial advisor stuff. No more Government or Contractor work for me. I’ll stay in my lane and help folks optimize their money. It’s a shame the BI industry is a broken dinosaur, there are so many ways to fix it. I really wish it could have worked out. Too bad.

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**Author:** ![tytyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@tytyler](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/tytyler)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/17 "2019-12-19T20:46:56Z")

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Good for you meatball! I just recently left (could not take it anymore) and now I am looking for work. May I ask what type of security or security office gig you found?

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**Author:** ![thor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@thor](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/thor)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/18 "2019-12-20T06:27:10Z")

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This will hurt the security clearance world. If the process works and identifies individuals, great. However, I think too many people will slip through the cracks. Too many people get cleared as it is with issues. They just hire a lawyer to get cleared.

Interviews allowed people to develop information that was not reported.

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**Author:** ![PseudoFed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba8739/32.png) [@PseudoFed](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/PseudoFed)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/19 "2019-12-20T12:57:31Z")

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I’ve been in the BI field for just under 6 years. I’m leaving in January for greener pastures as well.

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**Author:** ![MEATBALL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MEATBALL](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/MEATBALL)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/abandoning-the-sinking-bi-ship/9480/20 "2019-12-20T15:17:31Z")

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I spent a lot of time searching for personnel security positions, security office manager or assistant, facility security officer or alternate. I ended up in a security generalist postion. Keep in mind my work background is security office management with some time in background investigations.

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