Abandoning the sinking BI ship

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA ) is the name for each of a series of United States federal laws specifying the annual budget and expenditures of the U.S. Department of Defense. The first NDAA was passed in 1961.

NDAA happens every year and it is where DOD was given the authority to study taking over BI. I guess you could say it was were DCSA was born.

That would be very unfortunate. I believe face to face interviews are a must. I develop information on a great percentage of my interviews. I guess the issues are just not important anymore.

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I left too I tried it, and some aspects were good others terrible. But I had the opposite work experience, meaning I was a contractor paid per event. So they would refill after refile, taking my time and getting their work done for free essentially I’d start out with a boat load of files finish my work then the following week it would all get sent back with a laundry list of new (free for them) tasks to take care of. I was overworked under paid and living off savings to stay on top of my bills. I went back to real estate where I was before, and I just hooked up with First Command Financial Services that do financial advisor stuff. No more Government or Contractor work for me. I’ll stay in my lane and help folks optimize their money. It’s a shame the BI industry is a broken dinosaur, there are so many ways to fix it. I really wish it could have worked out. Too bad.

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Good for you meatball! I just recently left (could not take it anymore) and now I am looking for work. May I ask what type of security or security office gig you found?

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This will hurt the security clearance world. If the process works and identifies individuals, great. However, I think too many people will slip through the cracks. Too many people get cleared as it is with issues. They just hire a lawyer to get cleared.

Interviews allowed people to develop information that was not reported.

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I’ve been in the BI field for just under 6 years. I’m leaving in January for greener pastures as well.

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I spent a lot of time searching for personnel security positions, security office manager or assistant, facility security officer or alternate. I ended up in a security generalist postion. Keep in mind my work background is security office management with some time in background investigations.

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Where are you located? I don’t know your situation but you’d have better luck getting some of those positions if you’re willing to relocate, especially to the DC metro area.

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Good Luck! I left a few weeks ago from being a CI to now being an Admin for a DOE contractor, its a start and even thought the paycheck is much less at least there is a paycheck. I have 7 plus years in investigations and I just hate what happened and the uncertainty of the future. Maybe one day…

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I too left the BI world and became a personnel security specialist, while I do miss the flexibility that comes with BI work, the job is cool thus far. They also offer telework

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PERSEC is a good gig.

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Yes, I agree with everyone that the BI world is a sinking ship. I have been doing this for 13 years. I have been applying for jobs and cannot seem to go something else to save my life! It’s so frustrating!!

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I am told that there are several agencies who have not signed on to the CE and the “no face to face” Reinvestigations. The NDAA does not REQUIRE every federal agency to follow these guidelines. This is only my personal knowledge of being in the business for over 30 years.

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That makes sense. I have no other background in this industry other than being a BI (as I am only 1 year out of college). If you can or will (I do not want to be pushy) any advice fore someone like me? I am looking to go government in intell analyst or governemtn security. It has just been tough finding things. Thanks!

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Your issue is you will be competing with military who have separated or retired who are already trained to do those type of jobs.

I was lucky, I did my year and bailed. I have my military retirement and VA disability and was lucky to find a nice job to top off the other checks. There are lots of jobs being created according to the job reports, but it sill seems like the who you know to be able to land one of them. At least one that pays well, especially if it is your only source of income.

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The job was definitely fun while it lasted, the ships seems to be stinking fast. It’s the holiday season and I only have about 5 cases. The last two years I had a more than full workload around Christmas time, but that’s definitely not the case this year. I work other contracts but unfortunately I’m in an area where there isn’t a huge demand for those cases.

I figured this experience would look real good on a resume but I haven’t had much luck finding something else over the last 2 - 3 months. I’ve tried applying for assistant FSO and personnel security type positions but haven’t made it beyond the “Thank you for your application” stage.

I’m trying to transition into the IT field by getting a couple of certs, so hopefully that will open some doors up

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Create a profile at clearancejobs.com, look for analyst resume samples and search job descriptions to learn the lingo and to modify your resume. Look for analyst positions with defense contractors, you might have a better luck getting your foot in the door there. Find those types of contractors in your area, follow them in social media and go to their jobs fairs and career events. Meet people, just be friendly and nice, express your interest, show your resume and ask for feedback (what would make me a better candidate? Any courses you would recommend? etc). If they remember you, you’re more likely to get a call back.

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You’d do well in personnel security. You’ll start as a personnel security assistant (PSA), maybe even as a personnel security specialist. Then you can work in any of the aspects of PERSEC - investigations, EOD, or even adjudications. The latter is primarily a federal role, though there are many contractor roles in adjudications as well. Some friends of mine recently got on in PERSEC roles at DHS. Apparently they have a rather large PERSEC program.

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I have not made any money as an IC in several months. Oddly enough I occasionally receive federal reopens due to the quality tool, SMH. It really upsets me to feel like I am working on cases from three months ago for free.

I am jumping ship and completely changing industries. I wish everyone good luck. Please don’t let these companies give you false hope about BI industry.

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I am jumping ship for a different position/industry. Good luck, everyone.

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