Just move on and be happy!

You are telling people to move on when you worked for ISN as a sub-contractor under GDIT who only had a piece of the NBIB contract for two years?

Now if you are advising people to move on from DCSA, you have a point. DCSA is a sinking ship for contractors. 100% telephone work, never leave the home again, and low inventory of work as the backlog has all but disappeared. Working for CACI or KGS is a nightmare as a F/T hourly as already described here countless times on this website with different threads. The old OPM, now DCSA contract is a cutthroat and awful contract to work as a federal contractor. The companies take and take and take and are like vampires.

However, there are avenues to remain in the BI industry even when not engaged with DCSA. It’s called independent and direct federal contracting. I should start a business and advise frustrated and lost BI’s how to create an investigative business and build up contracts with various vendors and agencies in the BI industry. I’ve already advised a couple of frustrated Investigators that were able to successfully build a BI business without the reliance upon DCSA for any work whatsoever. There are other agencies out there that don’t go through DCSA to conduct their investigations.

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How difficult is that? I have heard about that but the how is never talked.

The “how” is not talked as openly because most of us are fearful when we share such knowledge that our local areas will be inundated with hungry Investigators trying to compete with our existing contracts and vendor relationships. With the ever decreasing workload due to COVID and other situations, I won’t provide all of these nuggets of information here on a public forum. I intend to provide consulting services to lesser experienced BI’s in the future to assist others in developing their careers and stay in the industry. I’ve put way too much effort into building my CI business to just share all of my contracts and relationships here. Sufficeth to say that you don’t have to be reliant upon DCSA if you get on enough contracts.

Actually if you look at recent data, a huge percentage of the population is disqualified from military service.

When you’re ready to launch the consulting program please let me know. I’m not a " new Investigator " but ram desperate to get offf the employee train because of reasons I’m sure you’re aware of. I don’t know how to exchange personal contact info on here but can probably figure it out.

Some people because of disabilities that they have no control over.

The rest is from poor life choices.

Still stand by my comment. Being in the military has a few perks, and one of them is veteran preference.

I don’t disagree with your comment, (though I never served and personally never regretted my decision, a military environment simply isn’t for me), but based on a 2009 study that was referenced in this article from 2018, more people are disqualified on medical grounds than on fitness grounds.

It’s possible the ratio has changed in the past decade, I know that certain branches are now more lenient with waivers for various medical issues, but no matter how you slice it, the military is still out of reach for a ton of people.


Ain’t got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don’t worry, be happy
The landlord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don’t worry, be happy

Haven’t worked a case since May. I gave up on the BI world in July. On your IT certs. You just got CompTIA sec + cert and you were good to go?


You can take the CompTIA tests from home due to COVID, I just bought a book and did self study and took the test after a week of studying hard.

I also earned the A+, Network+ and CysA+ all within the last five months. But yeah, I was pretty much good to go with security+ alone

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It takes most ppl 30-45 days to study for Sec+ and that’s if you’re already tech savvy/ have some working knowledge and interest in that field. How you simply racked up all those certs in a seemingly short time doesn’t sound realistic. However, we can all acknowledge that we are not built the same.


When I left the BI world back at the end of May I went to a security specialist position where I had quite a bit of downtime and I was able to study at work and my employer didn’t mind, so that definitely helped a lot. I don’t have any prior IT experience.

I spent two weeks total studying for the A+ which is a two part exam, so one week for each test, two weeks total for Network+, a week for Security+ and about two weeks for CySA+. The first three are entry level certs and I feel they aren’t as hard as most people think they will be, plus there is a lot of overlap when it comes to CompTIA tests so that definitely made Security+ feel like the easiest one.

Either way with my timeline aside, the point still stands that if any BI’s on here are looking for something new and they have any interest in the IT whatsoever, studying for a couple certs (whether it takes you weeks or months) is the way to go, especially since they have the benefit of being cleared and can use that to their advantage


I’ve studied this manual and it’s challenging (didn’t say it is impossible) to obtain these certs without some prior knowledge and experience in IT. For someone to be able to obtain these certificates without any knowledge takes months and months of arduous study and reading.

I mainly watched video course on Udemy by a man named Jason Dion, the courses clock in under 20 hours and can be easily watched in a week or two. A+, Network+ and Security+ don’t require months of studying unless you’re studying 5 minutes a day. Professor Messer on YouTube has free video courses for the certs as well. The exams aren’t that difficult and you don’t need to know every little thing about IT to pass them.

I earned the A+ toward the end of August, went right into Network+ and got it at the beginning of September, took a little break, then focused on Security+ and earned that within the same month, took another break, then focused on CysA+ which I got a couple of weeks ago.

No prior IT experience other than being a computer user throughout my life. Didn’t really read any books, mainly just watched video course and took some practice tests. I simply wanted it bad enough so I made it happen


What did you use to study? I’ve been studying but don’t feel confident enough to take the exams. Maybe you found better resources?

The Jason Dion courses and practice exams on Udemy are the best I have found, in my opinion. Search his name on Udemy.com and you’ll see all of his courses. You can usually purchase a course for $10-15. If you click on a course and it shows you a way higher price, then just use incognito mode and go back to the page until it shows you a “sale” price between $10-15 or so


Ok thank you, I’ll review his videos. It’s saying a lot that you did all these certs that fast… amazing.

Kudos to you. Thank you for the inspiration! I am in the process of getting my Security+ also, and feel much more confident as I push forward and out of the BI world. Best of luck to you in your new career.

Wishing the best of luck to you! Getting the security+ along with your clearance will open up many doors, especially if you’re willing to relocate

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Coursera a online course provider partnered with major universities and tech companies. They have a 4 to 8 month certificate program called IBM Cybersecurity Analyst Professional Certificate. It is free to take any course on coursera but if you want to get credit for the 8 courses and the Professional Certificate you need to register for the entire certificate program ($50/month). I don’t see why you couldn’t do it in the 4 months if you spent 6-8 hours per day at it. The certificate program is total beginner level and no experience is required. You can start the program at any time.

Here’s a link to the program (though I’d suggest downloading and working through the app):

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