# Lying about Why You Left Previous Employment is Never Good

**URL:** <https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092>\
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**Created:** [May 10, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092 "2021-05-10T17:00:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/marko/32/103_2.png) [@Marko](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Marko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/1 "2021-05-10T17:00:57Z")

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Originally published at: [https://www.clearancejobsblog.com/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/](https://www.clearancejobsblog.com/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/)  
   
Anyone who has filled out a&nbsp;Questionnaire for National Security Positions&nbsp;(SF-86) is familiar with the section where you must list all previous employments in the past seven years and why you left. It is pretty straightforward and branching questions ask about being fired, leaving employment under mutual agreement after being told you would be fired or…

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**Author:** ![Weeble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7cd45c/32.png) [@Weeble](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Weeble)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/2 "2021-05-10T17:33:12Z")

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Sociopath’s always believe they have a leg to stand on and someone else to blame and a valid reason for an appeal. Then again…everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Great atypical story.

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**Author:** ![sbusquirrel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/sbusquirrel/32/34_2.png) [@sbusquirrel](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sbusquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/3 "2021-05-10T21:34:30Z")

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Ive heard anecdotal evidence of an employer telling a different story than an employee. Mostly these are reports on forums like this, but I do know personally one person who got laid off but thought otherwise everything was OK… until he found out later that the employer filed a security violation against him. Fortunately he got it straightened out.

However that should not diminish the message of the original post. I do know another guy who got fired for inappropriate internet usage, but was told it would be handled as a “layoff” (probably to avoid any possible lawsuits). Wonder if that sort of thing is the cause of some of these differences.

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**Author:** ![backgdinvestigator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/backgdinvestigator/32/209_2.png) [@backgdinvestigator](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/backgdinvestigator)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/4 "2021-05-11T13:29:24Z")

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I can top this one. A Subject, DoD Contractor, reported they were fired but refused to tell me why. They stuck to their guns that their former employer HR told them to tell no one, not even the federal government, why they were fired. They seemed relieved when I said, “ok”.

I already knew why they were fired.

In the police record section, Subject did not report any arrests in the last 7 years. Even after I reminded them about having to report expunged records. Again, stuck to their guns.

I confronted them with two expunged record arrests and the fact they were investigated for embezzling from their former employer and their customers. Also let them know I was aware of their pending court trial for the embezzlement

Too many think we only use the information they provide. This is an example of why I do as much as I can before the Subject interview.

BTW, the FSO ended the interview because of the Subject was yelling and screaming at me to the point it was upsetting employees outside the meeting room. The Subject was sent home for the rest of the day. Subject didn’t show to work the next day, or any day, to complete the interview.

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**Author:** ![fed-investigator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@fed-investigator](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/fed-investigator)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/5 "2021-05-12T05:22:21Z")

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backgdinvestigator, that is truly the best outcome! Nice.

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**Author:** ![Weeble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7cd45c/32.png) [@Weeble](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Weeble)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/lying-about-why-you-left-previous-employment-is-never-good/13092/6 "2021-10-13T00:18:48Z")

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I certainly hope that Subject was not able to obtain any personal information regarding your name/address/location. People who lose their jobs often get very vindictive and as you know we are forbidden to carry any type of self protection. This process is all about letting Subject’s think we only use the information they provide and when contradictory information pops up, it’s a reflection of their honesty, memory, reading comprehension, attention to detail, and judgement. You are never going to convince anyone they should have listed or admitted to something on their case papers that they don’t think they should have listed. When their reading comprehension is low and/or their attorney tells them they never have to admit to expunged charges they are gonna believe what they believe. That’s their problem not ours.
