# Of what use is a TS/SCI with NO polygraph?

**URL:** <https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626>\
**Category:** SECURITY CLEARANCE Q&A\
**Created:** [October 8, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626 "2019-10-08T04:03:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElHombre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@ElHombre](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ElHombre)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/1 "2019-10-08T04:03:54Z")

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IC agency, according to security – will get a TS/SCI with no polygraph however you would be subject to polygraph at any time in the future if the agency desired. I know that just about all contractor jobs that require a TS/SCI require it “w/poly.”

So just wondering, how transferable or useful will a TS/SCI you don’t possess any polygraph which most TS/SCI jobs say they require.

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**Author:** ![velcroTech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/velcrotech/32/186_2.png) [@velcroTech](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/velcroTech)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/2 "2019-10-08T11:38:25Z")

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There are many positions in the IC that dont require a poly and a TS/SCI.

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**Author:** ![Defender66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@Defender66](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Defender66)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/3 "2019-10-08T14:40:41Z")

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There are more TS/SCI authorizations out there that don’t require polygraph than those that do.

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**Author:** ![sbusquirrel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/sbusquirrel/32/34_2.png) [@sbusquirrel](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sbusquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/4 "2019-10-08T19:43:48Z")

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For contractors, it largely depends on whether you will be working on site at a government facility or if you will require access to a government network. Of course some customers will want everyone to have a poly no matter what, but I’d say that the majority do not require one UNLESS you will require “staff-like access” to the facility or the network.

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**Author:** ![ElHombre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@ElHombre](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ElHombre)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/5 "2019-10-09T16:19:58Z")

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This is actually a fed job, what about for feds?

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**Author:** ![sbusquirrel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/sbusquirrel/32/34_2.png) [@sbusquirrel](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sbusquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/of-what-use-is-a-ts-sci-with-no-polygraph/8626/6 "2019-10-09T22:01:25Z")

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I am not sure, it seems that more and more places are getting on the polygraph party bus as far as requiring at least a CI poly for direct hire feds. But State Department, for example, seems to have avoided the trend. So far.
