Reductions in Workforce Hit Intelligence Agencies

Still considered active until we officially depart the agency after 9/30. Still subject to all rules regarding traveling outside the US, declaring arrests, and getting approval to work in private sector even though we are on administrative leave. I also know a couple people who took the DR and have been called for ramdom drug testing and who had to update current clearance.

Has your pay been as promised? When your time end 9/30 what have they told you happens to your clearance? Will you be able to move to a private sector contractor job and take it with you?

So far so good with pay, although i think we are all nervous still. Some in my dept were given the ok to work for a contractor and some were not. I think it depended on the position but i don’t know anything further. We really all had a lot of unanswered questions and little time, so i hope we get further info closer to September. Everyone i know who took DR was close to retirement or was in probationary position - or had just changed positions recently and now considered probationary.

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What is it you feel nervous about? Is it related to promised pay or to the fact that your clearance may be suspended after your job ends, rendering you somewhat unemployable?

Nervous about receiving pay and benefits as promised. The DR process was very stressful and chaotic. I am not worried about my clearance as I plan on getting out of the BI industry. I am not interested in working as a contractor again.

Some people took ā€œthe forkā€ & were not only denied a delayed resignation but told that resignation was accepted effective immediately and received no severance.

You don’t know what fascism means. Millions of people got killed because of it. I don’t see that happening here.
Sorry your feelings were hurt.

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Lots of Germans didn’t see it happening either, just saying.

A history lesson may be in order.

A history lesson seems to be in order :slight_smile:" The latest rant about schedule F:

If these government workers refuse to advance the policy interests of the President, or are engaging in corrupt behavior, they should no longer have a job," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "This is common sense, and will allow the federal government to finally be ā€˜run like a business.

I wonder who gets to define ā€œcorruptā€ and ā€œcommonā€ Last I checked the government was NOT a business.

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So you picked a quote and anointed him a fascist? That’s all it took?
I came from a former USSR. My family is Jewish and half of my family from both sides were killed because they were Jewish and because that’s exactly what fascists set out to do. Give me an example of current administration doing it against anyone. I’ll wait.

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I’m sure, you know all too well the lead ups to fascism. Fascism has a definition and it certainly can include killing people that don’t agree with it’s principles. Especially religious principles. It often exalts nation, religion and race above the individual. It emphasizes a centralized smaller government headed by a charismatic leader. Economic and social regimentation and a forcible suppression of opposition focusing on retribution.

That’s about the first time that I’ve seen anyone try to really define Fascism as opposed to merely tossing it around as a label. However, those definitions apply to a number of 20th century ideologies… and I’m not so sure about the ā€œsmaller governmentā€ part.

Has anyone actually read Project 2025? I have. It definitely has Fascist vibes.

This quote had been attributed to Churchill, don’t know whether he really said that, but it still makes sense: fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists. I would change it to commies of the future.

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Marx not only laid out a specific definition of communism, but later in his life, in an article (which I haven’t been able to find since I read it in college), he admitted his theory of Communism was so flawed, that there was no practical way to implement it. Yes, he really said that.

Getting back to the original topic :roll_eyes: the latest scuttlebutt is that there may be no RIFs thanks to the robust response to the various incentive programs.

Hopefully all the ā€œreshapingā€ will be cleared up in a couple of months.

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Hope that kind of whispering is true. Guess we’ll see in the months.