# SC says one thing but DISS says another? **URL:** \ **Category:** SECURITY CLEARANCE Q&A\ **Created:** [March 6, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255 "2025-03-06T18:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShadowPhoenix96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@ShadowPhoenix96](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ShadowPhoenix96)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/1 "2025-03-06T18:56:58Z")
I’m getting ready to start a new position as a contractor for DoD. I have a TS/SCI with a CI. My current FSO checked on SC and it says that I was enrolled in CE with DoD as of last week. On DISS it shows in process still though? I’m a bit confused since I figured you would have to be crossed over fully to be enrolled in CE? ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/2 "2025-03-08T18:11:23Z")
Mine went the other direction from 3 letter to DoD. I had completed my CE forms maybe 6 months before going to DoD. But I was coming up on my 5 year polygraph and the two systems had a few disconnects before final ruling saying “CE”. So I started and stopped E-forms several times. Give it a minute. They should level up ---
**Author:** ![ShadowPhoenix96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@ShadowPhoenix96](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ShadowPhoenix96)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/3 "2025-03-12T17:22:54Z")
Ah. Its showing in DISS as both enrolled in CE and adjudication in process? I figured that CE meant that you crossed over already. Have you seen this? ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/4 "2025-03-13T00:33:12Z")
Id file it under “ish”. I used to call this the “no-no-no” check. Where they see if you answered yes to any questions. Once their review is complete it will catch up. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowPhoenix96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@ShadowPhoenix96](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ShadowPhoenix96)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/5 "2025-03-13T09:49:59Z")
What do you mean by “ish”? Security lingo flies over my head lol ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/6 "2025-03-13T16:14:28Z")
I think they wil synch up. If they did a “cross over” they review pertinent questions. If all good, your clearance carries over. Then both systems should synch ---
**Author:** ![ShadowPhoenix96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@ShadowPhoenix96](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ShadowPhoenix96)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/7 "2025-10-10T20:04:22Z")
A bit of an update. the pending status in DISS was because of a CE hit. Stangely though when I submitted a FOIA request the hit happened when I was on a ODNI contract. I self reported to ODNI and it was taken care of quickly. I had to submit an updated SF86 a few ekks later. Two days after I submitted it my DoD CE date changed to 09/12/25 though my case still show pending in DISS. In SC there is no pending actions. I always thought that in this case teh CE would be updated after a full adjudication? ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/8 "2025-10-10T21:01:21Z")
They can take a while. SC and DISS…sometimes plays nice together. SC can show DoD but I’m not sure about DISS showing SC. I would notify security manager on both sides to see if they can synch up. ---
**Author:** ![sbusquirrel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/sbusquirrel/32/34_2.png) [@sbusquirrel](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sbusquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/9 "2025-10-11T00:17:22Z")
Just what is “Scattered Castles” after all? First time I heard of it, it was using PKI certificates to verify a user was authorized to access web sites. Now it seems to be a huge linchpin of the entire security system. But it is mainly for inter-agency use, correct? Some security officer from one agency enters data in there so another officer from another agency can see it. And I think it is run by ODNI now… or it was… or something. ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/10 "2025-10-11T00:48:38Z")
Yes, pretty much a repository for clearance history and active clearances. I used it to track where our candidates were in the system. ODNI is owner. Very user friendly. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowPhoenix96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@ShadowPhoenix96](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/ShadowPhoenix96)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 10:27am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/11 "2025-10-11T10:27:02Z")
Oh I meant as far as having an updated CE for DoD but still showing as DoD pending in DISS. I was always under the assumption that the CE date changes after your open investigation or CV hit in my case is adjudicated? ---
**Author:** ![sbusquirrel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/sbusquirrel/32/34_2.png) [@sbusquirrel](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/sbusquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/12 "2025-10-11T17:17:43Z")
> [@Amberbunny2](#): > > Very user friendly. But you have to have some kind of justification to be a user? Not just anyone with JWICS access can sign up, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Amberbunny2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Amberbunny2](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Amberbunny2)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/13 "2025-10-11T17:30:31Z")
Correct. If your agency uses it, and you have a need…they can authorize access. But they control who gets in. I managed the visitor control center team who verified all clearances for official visitors. At first I was denied. Then after the government “wrote up” one of my Access Control Officers for not following the process, I argued “how can I be held accountable when I’m not even allowed to observe them using the process?” So, to manage the function I was granted access and then able to see what my staff was doing. Three letter agencies are weird. ---
**Author:** ![bebe1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@bebe1979](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/bebe1979)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/sc-says-one-thing-but-diss-says-another/20255/14 "2025-10-11T17:53:32Z")
I noticed this recently. It’s a total ■■■■ show these days.