# TS require Poly?

**URL:** <https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/ts-require-poly/12860>\
**Category:** SECURITY CLEARANCE Q&A\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/ts-require-poly/12860 "2021-03-26T02:44:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Go4it](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@Go4it](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Go4it)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/ts-require-poly/12860/1 "2021-03-26T02:44:10Z")

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Does a TS always require a poly? Or is that when it’s SCI or if the specific agency requires it?

Going up for dod ts.

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**Author:** ![Chzburger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Chzburger](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Chzburger)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/ts-require-poly/12860/2 "2021-03-26T02:53:12Z")

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Collateral TS, in general, does NOT require a polygraph. I personally know a LOT of people at my workplace who have TS and have never been polygraphed. I suppose they may be done on a case-by-case basis or if a particular agency has a preference for conducting them even without SCI, but I can’t speak to specifics on that.

TS/SCI, in general, requires a polygraph. The type of polygraph (CI or Full-Scope) is position and/or agency dependent. Though I personally know someone who works at the same installation (federal DoD civilian) that I do that started out at Secret and got upgraded to TS/SCI at a later time and was never required to undergo a polygraph. I have no idea how that works, but it happened somehow _shrug_.

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**Author:** ![Go4it](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@Go4it](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/u/Go4it)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/t/ts-require-poly/12860/3 "2021-03-26T11:02:38Z")

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Thanks. Going up for the T5 I’m trying to guess how long it will take.

I just completed T4 in 2019 and I know it’s a separate investigation and all that, but that took 2 years and they did all the interviews to count to about 10 folks.
