Help! Domestic Violence Charge Need Advice

Hey everyone, I am back on to ask a question to anyone that can possibly answer for me regarding my clearance status and reinvestigation. So I had reached out to my security department the other day and asked for a status check it came back with the following response "

"Hello M****w,

You should not have to worry about anything with your reinvestigation. I am seeing that you have a background investigation close date of 6/16/2023, and I’m assuming that is your reinvestigation. If it wasn’t complete, they would simply cancel your reinvestigation, but you would still maintain your clearance."

My reinvestigation packet was submitted to the IC client July of 2022 and since then I have not heard any updates whatsoever aside from the generic “Your case has been assigned to a case manager and is currently ongoing, we will contact you when the government makes a decision.” That close date was two months ago and literally no one had contacted me. I am very confused and now curious on what that means in regards to my reinvestigation. Does that mean I passed and nothing is happening? Does that mean I passed one of several hurdles and is now in adjudication? I don’t want to assume anything or think I am all clear until I hear back for sure. Can anyone provide me any insight to whether this a good sign or what I should take their message as? I have responded to their message and I am now getting no response at all. I should note that I have been using my clearance actively working for said IC since this started so no changes or suspensions. Please help if you can and thanks in advance.

Additional information that may indicate my reinvestigation may be finally complete and as I’ve heard absolutely nothing and my clearence is active and has had no interruptions that I may be in the clear hopefully. I’d love to hear any feedback or even someone who can tell me if based off this information on what it means.

Update I received an update that my case was assigned to an adjudicator.

Any updates? I am going through the same as of this week.

Nope as stated above I am still actively working but my BI is in adjudication now and has been since June apparently so no further updates as of yet. I waited over a year for them to finish the investigative portion of the process so who knows how long this part will take if they are already 2 months in and no word yet. I’ll update you all once I hear something regarding an outcome!!

I wanted to add as I feel for you man. I had this exact situation happen to me twice in an old marriage when I was on active duty over 20 years ago. I was married to a person with bi-polar disorder and substance abuse disorder and would regularly get assaulted by her and have to restrain her. I would get cigarettes thrown in my face, ash trays thrown at me, slapped, and punched in the mouth. She would always call the police and due to DV laws, any complaint of pain or assault; I got arrested.

This happened twice, both cases dismissed and unfounded; as I was actually assaulted despite getting charged with the assault. I also had it expunged later. I took all the necessary classes, etc… I had a Secret at the time, which I believe was suspended pending the outcome. Once the case was dismissed, it was reinstated. I remember I was up for reinvestigation at the time and disclosed the incident and outcomes and was able to maintain my clearance and went on to reclass to an MI MOS. I got as far away from her as possible and filed for divorce, which I got after a drawn out battle in court; which, I don’t for the life of me understand why she fought it if she hated me so bad lol.

The bad thing is this will always follow you, even if it’s expunged. Fast forward from these incidents; I got out of the mil and became a Police Officer, which I have been for the last 12 years. Of course, this comes up, and has to be investigated more and explained in detail. Luckily, I had a good BG Investigator for my first department who later became a good friend. He was very thorough with his investigation and dug through the police reports and found her criminal history as well, which she had a pattern of doing this as well as her own arrests for assault and battery on former male partners, DUI, and drug possession. The police reports discovered that they never asked me my side of the story or questioned me, they just arrived and hooked me; which any DV investigation or even verbal disputes between people requires that an officer interview everyone on scene to determine what happened and if anything actually occurred, and if it did who is the primary aggressor. I was never afforded this. Anyway, a thorough investigation was favorable for me and I served exemplary.

Now, as an Officer, I have dealt with a thousand DV cases. Unfortunately, I saw this same situation play out more often than not. Yes, there are legitimate cases of DV and when you see it you know it. However, most cases are just like the one you explained and that I went through. It’s never clear cut and a lot of times false claims are made and it’s he said she said with little to no evidence of any physical assault. Now on to the bad part. Due to the stigma around DV, and yes it is very serious issue, as many women “and” men are killed yearly in violent domestic situations. Officers are required to make arrests if any allegations are made of physical assault, or complaints of pain with little to no evidence. More often than not, the male half will be the one arrested as the primary aggressor even if he was defending himself and trying to restrain his female partner from attacking him.

Protective Order’s are automatically issued even when the female half does not want one and arrests are made even if she recants and says that nothing happened. Due to victim’s rights, women are not typically charged in re canting and saying that nothing happened and that they don’t want to go further with the case. Most cases that I see, this is typical; a complaint is made, whether it happened or not, there is little to no physical evidence with either party involved, an arrest is made, and the PO is issued. The case goes to court and either the complainant does not show up or re cants and the case is dismissed. This happens a thousand times a day across the the country. Unfortunately there are the real and very bad cases, which often do not even get reported as the female, or sometimes male, lives in fear of the other half and these are the horrible cases where a person is seriously injured or killed. This sets the tone for every other case with a zero tolerance policy in hopes to prevent those extreme cases from occurring. I have worked and seen many of these cases and they are horrendous, traumatic, and depressing.

With it following you be prepared to talk about it twenty years from now if you want to get another job or renew your clearance. I recently went through the process as a contractor for a gov’t agency and had to re live this all over again. The investigator, which I know he is just doing his job, questioned me like he was a Detective trying to re-open the case and get me charged and convicted. I expected to talk about it, of course, but not to the level where he was trying to get me to admit guilt despite the incidents being over 20 years old, unfounded, dismissed, expunged, and that I was an actual victim in the case. You will be good to go, don’t worry. This is more common than you could imagine. What is meant to protect people from great harm, also harms a lot of innocent people as well, which is the unfortunate collateral damage with DV cases. I don’t know if this helps or not, but wished to share my own personal experiences and realities from both sides of an incident similar to yours.

I appreciate your response and I am sorry about what you had too go through back then. I think what’s worse then being accused for something that you know you didn’t do is how this will not affect your life after the outcome. I have been waiting for over a year to find out the fate of my security clearance. I hired a lawyer who tried her best to contest the charges and get me the best possible outcome but unfortunately in the end the prosecutor was dead set on making me suffer some how. I ended up getting 6 months unsupervised probation, required to take a class and pay a fine which I successfully abided by and completed. In Dec 2022 all charges were dropped and dismissed (No convictions) including the PO which was not extended as the judge decided it wasn’t needed after I fulfilled her requirements. Is now November 2023 and I’ve been wait since July 2022 for something to happen and its terrifying to think about. I have been fortunate enough to keep my clearance thus far and have been actively using it. Last I checked its in Adjudication as of June 2023 so well see what happens whenever it happens. I did distance myself from her completely and nothing has come up since. As far as background checks I have had several recently for jobs and it doesn’t show on any of them or the courts site which I find interesting but I guess that’s a good thing. All I can say was that from the very beginning I was quick to report the incident, completely open, transparent and forthcoming with everything they had asked of me so all I can do is hope they see that its simply not who I am and my zero record and dozens of people attesting that I have never done anything or would ever do anything remotely like that.

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Ive seen them go so long…4 plus years…person had to Poly again.

Did you ever figure out what RIP stood for?

Or what the Sf86 RIP?

I was saw that my clearance status shows RIP next to the level I have…

From what I was told it stands for Reinvestigation Packet (RIP).

Good afternoon,

So wanted to provide a brief update on my very long reinvestigation that is about to hit the 2 year mark this April. So as some of you may or may not know this process started in April 2022 and now its March 2024. As of June 2023 it was in adjudication pending review denial/approval who knows. I received an email from my company yesterday after stating the following:

The Case Manager working on your reinvestigation has requested an in-person interview with you ASAP. This is an important part of the reinvestigation process to maintain your clearance.

The CM is available for the following times:

Thursday, April 04 @ 10am or 1pm

Tuesday, April 09 @ 10am or 1pm

Wednesday, April 10 @ 10am or 1pm

Thursday, April 11 @ 10am or 1pm

Tuesday, April 16 @ 10am or 1pm

This interview will take place in the northern Virginia area and directions will be sent via email once a date and time are confirmed.

Please reply to this email to confirm which date will work for you and include a phone number where the Case Manager can reach you.

So I am assuming since the last I heard it was in adjudication that this meeting is to meet with an adjudicator but I have no idea honestly. I have heard absolutely no changes or updates and this is the first time the agency has reached out to meet or get any information. For context I support a three letter agency as a DOD contractor and my EX partner accused me of assault in 2022 which was later dismissed after I complied with probation and a class. On Dec 2022 all charges were dismissed, no convictions and no court orders etc… Fast-forward to present day it is now March 2024 and I am possibly at the finish like (Maybe) and I am hoping to see what you all think of this meeting? I have scheduled a meet time with this mystery individual April 10th, 2024 at 1PM and I am worried of course but I assume they are discussing the incident.

So any updates from the interview?

Yes, the interview went very well. I met with the adjudicator/caseworker at the three letter agency I support and he asked me about the incident. We spoke for about 2 hours about all the details. In the end he said that he believed my story and wanted to close my Reinvestigation and as of yesterday it’s in final review for approval. The only thing I had to send outside of our talk was something showing a dismissal of charges from back in 2022 when the charges were dropped. So I’d wager on these are all good signs and a positive outcome. It took 2 years so I am ready for this all to be done finally. I’ll update again with a timeline when it’s official.

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Been there. Done that. If you have reasonable support for what you said, positive news follows.