That’s an interesting idea, i guess they’d have to create a portal or something.
or just get all the data from google, amazon, facebook etc
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That’s an interesting idea, i guess they’d have to create a portal or something.
or just get all the data from google, amazon, facebook etc
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I just filled one of those out a few months ago and it was pretty simple. I was told that we are all required to continue to self report any changes and once our would get reinvestigation would have been as long as no major changes have occurred than it would just be review. I guess they are trying to cut out the backlog that are BI and catch it in real-time.
They need an app for our phone where we can update our information just as easily as posting a status on Facebook. Lol. “Good morning clearance holder, what is your status today? Getting married? Off to jail? Fleeing the country? Please update your current contact information and upload any supporting documents. Thank you and have a good day!” ![]()
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And provide those responses as default options you can select with a single click ![]()
Those will be the drop down boxes for why you’re going to jail or fleeing the country lol
I need advice and I don’t know where else to turn. This group helped me a lot during my clearance process so I thought I’d reach out. Tell me to mind my own business and I will. Am I being a “Karen?”
My 23yo nephew graduated from West Point this past May and is a 1st Lt in the Army. For the first time in his adult life, our families spent a week together this Christmas. I’m told drinking heavily is normal for 23yo men. But is it normal for a 23yo with a TS clearance in the military, who’s actively training for a leadership career in mil Cyber security with the intent and goal of supporting spec ops on overseas missions who regularly drinks a 5th of Jack Daniels at a time, (from what I witnessed, NIGHTLY) considered NORMAL? The drinking is not even my concern. My concern is that he admittedly REGULARLY experiences alcohol-induced black outs and remembers nothing of what he said the night before…or who he talked to. 3 nights in a row he went on absolute drunken tirades about mil+govt+fam and very private family matters that should not really be repeated among younger ears. As I witnessed this, all I could think about was him sitting at a random bar in between future missions, experiencing a drunken blackout, and ranting about ops details he wouldn’t know anything about, would it not be for his TS clearance.
Now I do know commanding officers can be contacted by a creditor when a soldier doesn’t pay debts. However I view this behavior as much more dangerous than not paying debt. Especially after witnessing horrible, cruel behavior towards a sibling and then waking up the next morning without a single memory of the previous night and expressing zero care or remorse for his cruel words.
I don’t want to tattle or get him in trouble. But he needs guidance and mentoring that only a parent can give. (OR a CO) His parents’ mindset is such that the kid got straight A’s his entire life, sailed thru West Point with very little study or effort, graduated in the top 1% of his class, pays his bills, lives off base and has a great, easy job… he is the perfect son and perfect soldier. I’m told, “he’s a normal 23yo American male, he’s an adult, and there’s nothing we can say…”
I do have concerns related to his immature and misplaced delusions but those are too stupid to mention here. I’m gravely concerned for his physical well being after he gets his ass kicked during a blackout because he said the wrong thing to the wrong person. But what about when he reveals class’d information to the wrong person, puts his team in jeopardy, and remembers nothing about it the next day? Details related to lack of memory wouldn’t register on a poly. Divulging class’d info during an alcolholic blackout wouldn’t register on a poly…he’d pass a poly.
I haven’t slept for 2 nights worrying about this. If I do nothing and sometime in the future his behavior gets himself or others harmed, I couldn’t live with myself because I knew and I did nothing. On one hand, his parents know and are choosing to say nothing to him because, “he’s such a good boy.” On the other hand, this behavior makes him a blatabt security risk. My company requires we report this type of behavior when we jnow it about co-workers. But this is family. If I ruin his career, or look like I attempted to ruin it, my sister will never forgive me.
I work with many, many retired Cols and Generals… I could ask for their advice and they would gladly give it to me…but it’s a little too close to home for me… I don’t want to air dirty laundry where I eat.
Thoughts? Advice?
Thanks.
I had to ponder for awhile on this response because there is not enough information about the nephew’s continuing behavior and history.
Your nephew needs help with his alcohol consumption if he is experiencing blackouts from heavy consumption. That is an issue by itself but the Army has programs to help him.
Your nephew is a security threat. The best thing for your nephew is for him to self identify but this won’t happen if he and his immediate family don’t see an issue.
There is a requirement to report, though like many things - there is no clear method to report outside of your own organization.
You can contact the ARMY SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM (ASAP) at (210) 466-0985. They can probably provide you with options to make an educated decision.
Since his parents aren’t doing what you think they should be doing as far as parenting/mentoring/guidance. Perhaps you can personally give the guidance/mentoring that you believe he needs and gain a better insight into his all around habits, drinking, and lifestyle. Your opinions are based on one holiday week visit, so regular personal contact may give you a different impression. If you are truly worried about this person make the personal effort to assist a close family member instead of expressing concerns to someone else.
I am in the same boat as you. My IC clearance was just re-newed in the Summer of 2021 and I was in CE since the Summer of 2019; However, I am switching to a DOD job (not in the IC), and they told me to submit a new SF-86 ?!? “Say what!?!” … I told myself.
My new clearance is only less than 2 years old, and why would I re-submit a SF-86 when I am not due until 2026 or 2027 under the new guidelines? → Can someone please explain this to me??
Nothing has changed in my prior SF-86 other than I switched one job and have a new home address …
Sounds like your clearance type changed. You may have had a secret (or less) in the prior job but the new job needs something higher, TS or SCI - or could be a SAP. In those situations, a new investigation is needed which means a new 86.
Yes, it has changed some but I will not be using my poly here shortly.
I have had a TS/SCI with a Poly for nearly 10 years. The IC just re-newed my clearance and poly in 2021. I have been in the IC CE since 2019.
However, I am moving to a new DOD job that is only TS/SCI. They told me to submit a new SF-86 for the CV.
So I am thinking the IC and DOD use different vetting systems for now but it will eventually be one.
Some places just want a new SF-86 when doing a crossover and may not initiate a new investigation UNLESS they see some significant change.
I do not believe that CV/CE has led automatically to full reciprocity between all agencies. At least not yet.