Hello Group,
i recently applied for a job requiring clearance. I left my job at a major aerospace firm in January 2017, and fielded questions and advised some small businesses that I had worked with in the past.
To close the gap on my resume, i put that i did consulting work, which is true, the advice i gave did benefit companies.
If i exclude the consulting on my SF86 application, will that raise a flag vs. the resume I submitted to the prospective employer?
Thank you,
Humble Fred
The last few positions I have applied for, the hiring company reviewed my SF86 and asked for any corrections that were needed. I would suggest putting it down no matter how minuscule you think it may be.
Why would you omit the consulting work on your resume? It’s like being self employed which the SF86 allows. Did you provide consulting to some scrupulous characters or worried about something else?
It will raise Issues if you don’t provide all the information as it will look like you are hiding something.
i did offer some advice, and answer questions, but not to the extent on my resume.
Total exaggerations.
Unpaid consulting work? Not sure what you are getting at exactly. It sounds like you lied to get this current job
Hi Fred,
I think you are getting some lousy advice on this topic. We all have different resumes for different purposes. The only difference here is that your SF86 must include all of your work and non-work timeline no matter how short or trivial you think it is. I would think you would be weird or stupid if you included every single job you’ve ever held on a resume. A resume is simply a selling tool for you to get noticed from the pack. Very little of my civilian work is on my DoD related resume, it would be foolish to include that experience. The SF86 is all inclusive no matter what. Good luck.
Lousy advice? The other poster and myself told “Fred” he should be putting all employment down on the SF86, the same thing that you said.
Ok, I appreciate the advice and passion here.
What if the company I consulted for doesn’t want to give me a reference.
And by the way, I did like 25hours of total work for this line item on my resume. I was trying to start up a business and I couldn’t juggle it with taking care of our 3 kids too.
Now I’m regretting ever putting it on my resume.
So here’s the bottom line question.
Will the investigator call out the discrepancy between my resume submitted to the employer, and the work history on the SF86?
Not looking for a moral judgement of me, just an answer.
And if so, is they do call it out, is there any good way to mitigate that?
IF they find discrepancies and ask you in the interview, elaborate and clarify it all. If they don’t ask it, they may still ask you “is there any other work history you want to include”. You should also include it.
No. The investigator would have no knowledge of what’s on your resume. Explain what the work experience is and how it was sporadic, occasional or short. You’d be surprised what people will say when an investigator with a badge shows up. The investigator will ask if the person being interviewed can be recommended for a position (of trust) requiring a security clearance. The person can answer yes no or prefer not to answer.
That’s not necessarily true. Resumes are often included with other investigative documents and major discrepancies will be discussed.
It must be unique in your investigative experience. I pulled my investigation thru a FOIA and the resume was not used. My coworker originally got his clearance in a completely different state many years ago also had no resume used. I would have to disagree that resumes are used since investigators aren’t allowed to take hard copies of anything.
It’s more common for public trust investigations. Agencies upload them along with applicant’s SF85.
OP said SF86 and clearance.
And you said investigators have no knowledge of resumes, which is false. I’ve had them on SF86 cases as well. Not sure why you’re taking it so seriously. Your two examples obviously trump the hundreds of resumes I’ve read as an investigator.
Great then we can agree to disagree then. My original point to this post still stands. Why are you commenting again? Seems like you know everything anyways
What will bite the OP is if someone reports the 250 hours (approximately six working weeks) employment. I have sources tell me about Subject’s working one day - let alone six weeks.Even if you didn’t have an issue, this delays your fieldwork. You really are better off reporting this self-employment, listing the required information, so the case will process smoothly.
My BI had a great time trying to understand my “casual” side jobs. I work a random day here or there with no set schedule, but the employer has me as an “employee” for 2 or 3 years even though I may have less than a month over that time. Employer keeps you on “payroll”, so they dont have to do paperwork each time, but just pays you when you work.
This is more common, especially in the tech world.
When you are 1099 casual - you are really better off listing yourself as self employed then use customer POCs as verifiers for your self employment.