Uncooperative Subjects

A security clearance to mow the lawn or make beds? lol
What is this world coming to? LOL

Truth. This operating location takes no chances hiring anyone with questionable behavior. And due to the large amount of classified…if some blows away or is left behind, they want to be certain people are cleared and trained on what to do with said info.

A guy told me he was working at Martin Marietta in Denver in the late 70s (first job out of college) when somebody came up to him and said, “Good news, your clearance came through.”

He said, “what’s a clearance?”

After thinking about it a bit, he vaguely recalled filling out some forms many, many months earlier but really did not know what they were.

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You would be surprised what this world is coming too. I have a friend needed a TS/SCI and he is doing OSINT (UNCLASSIFIED) research.

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Ironically, I was hired because I have integrity.
Irony upon irony, my integrity will be what gets me fired. I seriously love the work. … so what now?:slightly_frowning_face:

How will integrity get you fired?

I like uncooperative Subjects. Just bounce them, not my problem. I’ve got more then enough work for the cooperative ones.


Agree with Fed Investigator… I will accept the excuse that some one is out of the area, not at work because of illness, FMLA, etc. or something that is beyond our control - but just being difficult - I report what was said and press on to the next case.


Yep, had a Subject just the other day that didn’t have time to meet with me.

Cool. Non-cooperation it is!

It’s like they think I am going to be the one answering to their employer or chain of command.


My old recruiter filled out my SF86. When I applied for another job that requiered a clearance I saw that I had one and it said “ Receuit is to report to Parris island “ I had no idea I had that!!

When my Investigator called me I immediately asked him to be scheduled the very next day. Took me 6 hours to complete but I hope it will go to adjudication soon.

Just bounced one for non-cooperation. Best part is I still get paid for the ESI since we partially completed it before subject became uncooperative.

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You started the ESI and then Subject quit? Only had that once and it was a SPIN. Had the Subject dead to rights, they said they no longer wanted the job.

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So, I am fairly new to this blog, in process of getting Secret Clearance for Position with contractor, I have a conditional offer, question for anyone that can help. What if current employer refuses to fill out the questionnaire (INV Form 41). President of the company (was not trilled about me potential leaving i guess) says he won’t fill out the papers until after I no longer work for him or his company.

I guess what I am really asking is there a way to get the form filled out? Or will my investigator send an officer to interview in person? how can I help avoid delays in my clearance process?

You can’t prevent delays, it’s just one of those things. If you are interviewed, you can provide a different name for someone at the employment.

OK, thanks. Now I sit and wait my turn. I wish things could move faster, however I do thank you for what all you investigators do. Your back log seems very intimidating. At least I know mine is being worked. today I believe is day 85.

I know this may sound cruel but 85 days is like a wink to some of the users here. I am going on 323 and I know some have waited over 700 days. Just get comfortable and reach out to your political leader. I am hoping this will help my cause.

A huge step in the right direction for me, Subject interview Monday 2/26/18. I have been quietly reading posts here and waiting for my turn at a interview. Very Happy to announce that it has been scheduled.

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I hear the system is improving on secret clearance holders.