Firm Offer same as Official?

No one can seem to help me understand this. Received final job offer much quicker than I anticipated. I don’t don’t whether they have me interim clearance or final. When I asked HR, they simply said I’ve been cleared for onboarding. Please make it make sense. Is Firm the same as Official and how will I know if I passed the clearance?

No one can help you without more information. What level clearance? Secret? Top Secret? Have you met with an investigator? Many agencies do grant an interim clearance so you can start the job, but the investigation is still needed to complete the clearance process. If I had a nickel for every time a Subject told me, “I don’t need you to interview me… I’m already working for XYZ…”

You can receive a final job offer and still have it be contingent on obtaining a security clearance.

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I used to work for the BOP which requires a T4 public trust. My T4 was not adjudicated until I had already worked for the agency for one year and five months. By that time I was out of the one year probationary period and had already passed the Federal Law Enforcement Training. I was a full-fledged federal officer. A T4 positive adjudication was required however so had I not have received a positive adjudication I would have still been terminated from the position. There were coworkers I had that did not receive a positive adjudication for whatever reason and they were terminated and escorted out the front gate.

I’ve seen cases where people receive an interim clearance start the job work for 6,12,18 months. Then they are interviewed for final adjudication and then lose the job afterward because of unfavorable adjudication. It stinks when you as the investigator walk into a company that you frequent and the employees ask you ,"What did you report about “John” last time you were here??? " You then discover that several months after you interviewed John he was let go because he couldn’t get the clearance. Of course his coworkers liked him and they blame you in a joking manner but who knows what they really think.

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It’s secret clearance. I have not met with an investigator. I asked HR specifically had I been cleared, was it interim, etc. He just replied “You’ve been cleared for onboarding.” I just don’t want to lose my state job for a job that I may or may not have down the line due to unfavorable adjudication.

You need to ask the security officer not HR. They should be seperate departments but may be somewhat intertwined depending on the size of the company.

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Cleared for onboarding means you are adjudicated usually, but why was there never a meeting with investigator if it is for a clearance?

A meeting with an investigator is not required for a secret clearance. You only meet with an investigator if certain issues are present.

Ah ok thanks for letting me know that.

That’s what I want to know. I’ve researched so much my eyes are crossed. I ask HR questions and they’re just evasive for lack of a better word. I’m just confused about everything

Wow!!! did not know that. That explains alot.

What kinds of ‘certain conditions?

I am not going to sit here and list when and why an investigator is assigned to do a subject interview. All I will say is a subject interview is required for all top secret and is required only when additional questions need to be asked for a secret level clearance. A secret and top secret both use a SF86 but they have different coverage requirements.