Wow, I barely made 40k last year working full time
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Not senior 8, typo. Iām gonna get a reopen, dang it.
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Donāt care anymore so I can disclose. I was at 72k and change in a low cost part of the country. I had been maxed out with USIS 76k as a Senior 8 think they called it level 4/FTO. I was in mid 60ās when transitioned to recent company and had slowly worked my way up to about 72.
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A huge congrats to you.
I put 3 years in to the BI job and have now been out for a little over 2 and know it was definitely the right move (for me).
To anyone looking to leave the fieldā¦I wish you the absolute best in whatever is next.
To those hoping to remain and continue in the fieldā¦I hope the cases start flowing again for you soon!
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I was part of Perspectaās RIF back in January and havenāt worked since. Luckily not working is not detrimental to my families survival due to having a very good pension from 26 years in State law enforcement. There are three things that have not been in my favor when applying for clearance jobs. One is not having a degree. Going back is not in the cards right now. The second one is that I never served in the military. No way to correct that at age 51.
The third is the reason for this post. Iāve applied for a lot of clearance required jobs over the past several months. Iāve had a couple actually send a message saying that they filled the position but most never send any kind of response. Iāve had a few that reached out asking me to clarify my clearance and their inability to locate any clearance related information. Iāve told them that as a BI I had received a satisfactorily adjudicated T5/TS investigation that was completed 09/2018. Apparently most security people donāt know where or how to look up the information.
Could someone explain to me what a company would have to do to locate my information and what process if any that can be done make the clearance active.
I went from BI to PerSec and anyone trying to verify your previous clearance/investigation should be able to see it in PIPS and/or JPAS. We get reciprocity requests all the time and I just look in PIPS and JPAS to confirm the status before sending it on to our reciprocity team.
Iām not even close to the FSO level and I know where to look for that info so itās crazy to me when I hear people saying the place they applied to couldnāt find their clearance info.
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Right?
That info is out there.
Are you contractor or federal PERSEC?
Iām a contractor personnel security specialist.
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Your last adjudication is probably in OPMās CVS (clearance verification system).
It up in the air if it transferred to JPAS in late 2019 when NBIB moved over to DoD.
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Obviously I canāt speak for anyoneās specific situation but a lot of OPM/NBIB adjudications were migrated to JPAS as early as January 2018. Iām not sure if it was a phased approach or how they handled it, but I know it started at the beginning of 2018. I was in management at one of the vendors at the time and I had an FSO from another contract at our company independently confirm that.
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I appreciate the info.
I actually had a HR person call me back to tell me that their FSO looked me up and it was showing investigation completed and needing adjudication. He wanted to know if that sounded correct. I explained to him as much as I was able to and he was taking what I said back to the FSO. I think their concern was being able to fill the position per their contract in a timely manner and to judge my level of interest in the position before deciding to move on anything.
I actually thought that BIs had to receive an adjudication.
Thatās correct, as far as I know you need a favorable adjudication to work as a BI. Iāve never had any issues with people being able to find the info for my clearance. I left the BI field in May and into a new job and there were no issues. While working as a BI, I had to access a certain facility and the security personnel looked me up and told me that I did in fact have a clearance, just no āaccessā
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There are three steps to the security clearance process. In the first step, a āfavorable determinationā is made by OPM (now DCSA) based on a completed investigation. Once the favorable determination is made, the file needs to get sent to the DODCAF for full adjudication. Only a file that is fully adjudicated is āeligibleā for a clearance. At this point, if your file is fully adjudicated and you are hired for a position that requires a clearance, the contacting company sends your file to the relevant agency for acceptance after which the āswitchā is flipped and your clearance becomes active. BIs on the DCSA contract only need the favorable determination by OPM (now DCSA). Several BI companies screwed many investigators by never submitting the files to the CAF for full adjudication. A favorable determination is typically not stored in JPAS. Thatās why when a company looks you up in JPAS, they will likely not find you if you have only received a favorable determination on your investigation.
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Who can help us figure out what our records say in JPAS?
Iāve been told by FSO that most DCSA investigators are adjudicated but not activated. Some investigators have been activated to work on other additional IC contracts. DOE also appeared to require activated investigators. Very confusing for all involved.
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This is what I know from personal experience. When I applied for my current job they looked me up in JPAS and told me I had a current SSBI and would transfer me over with no issues. Itās a Dept of Army contractor and only needed a Secret, so seamless transfer. I had been with USIS followed by CACI. Left six months ago and kick myself for not having left earlier.
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Would you feel comfortable sharing what is your new job title/position? No problem if not. Congratulations on finding a way off the sinking ship!
Iām a Human Resources Generalist