Naci/ residency requirements/ fed jobs


#1

Hi,

I read on the DHS website that you must have lived in the USA for 2/5 past years to be employed with them, or you must have a US citizen abroad verify your foreign residences. There is also a yale blog that states this is the requirement for most fed jobs. However, I have not read that on any fed jobs description. I've only read it on a DHS document.

So, I've lived 1.5/5 years in the states. I therefore am ineligible for a dhs job.

Could I get a postal, doi, dod job? Is your NACI with written inquiries check disqualified if you don't have 2 out of the past 5 years in the states?

Or is this an agency specific qualification? I know the immigration department sometimes lists jobs with residency requirements of three years.

I applied for a doi and dod job and have interview this week, but now feel uncertain if I quallify. I have lived in places where no us citizen can verify my residence. only brits can. (I taught English abroad with brits.)


#2

If you got as far as the interview, keep going. Make them say no. That is, don't hide anything, but don't assume that this 2/5 requirement applies to this particular job.


#3

https://law.yale.edu/student-life/career-development/students/career-guides-advice/you-apply-understanding-government-background-checks

above is what yale says, that 2/5 is the rule for fed jobs

below is what dhs says about working for that agency

In my situation, I have no us citizens to verify some of my residences, so according to the above link I am unable to get a clearance for dhs jobs.

However is this 2/5 issue an agency issue or a clearance issue? Is the 2/5 rule a standard clearance issue for all fed jobs or just an agency rule?


#4

Yes, but I don't want to get the job, move to the city, then lose the job. That would be a tremendous waste of money and time.

It seems to me like maybe this 2/5 rule is part of the NACI clearance not just the rule for a certain agency. If anyone could give me the answer to this, I would so appreciate it.

The DHS website states that the 2/5 rule is in effect for their agency, and according to the Yale law website it applies to most fed jobs. So this is a clearance issue not an agency rule?

Anyone?


#5

Thanks for posting that DHS document, never seen it before.

Note that there is a provision for getting a waiver.


#6

waiver doesn't apply in my case

i guess no one knows if this is a dhs rule or a clearance rule, the 2/5 thing

why doesn't anyone know this information and why isn't it common knowledge so people
know what they're getting into before they apply for a job

why does yale law school know this rule but no one else does

it seems crazy to me

i googled all this by accident now don't know what to do


#7

Note that the first part of the waiver section talks about very specific conditions for non-citizens to be hired; the last part is a more general discussion of getting a waiver for all other circumstances.

Don't give up so soon.


#8

This requirement may pertain to certain agencies like DHS and DOJ, as well as sensitive positions, but as far a general low risk positions that only require a Tier 1 investigation for appointment I don't believe it applies. T1 investigations are quite often closed out complete without a residence verification (the mailed voucher is not returned), so it is not a mandatory item that needs completion in order to close out the case.


#9

Yes, but why in the world isn't there information on this? Why does yale have such a broad stroke with their information?

It baffles me how the government can be so "off."

As well, many of their jobs have errors in spelling.

A teacher's aide is correct. A teacher's aid is incorrect.

The jobs I am applying for are low tier not in DHS. I have scoured the OPM website and there is no information here either. I did email them, though.


#10

Marko,

Who would know the answer to this question? I have scoured the internet and have found nothing about this save the two links I showed you.


#11

OPM is the federal government's HR Authority so they would be the one's to ask. My thoughts are, unless it is a rule stated in some executive order, law, or regulation then what you have run across applies only to that particular agency.


#12

Sounds right, by why does yale law school have this on their website? It is
baffling.