Overemployed and Reinvestigation

Hi

everyone!

I’m up for reinvestigation for my secret, I will be joining the military. Here’s my situation though.

5 concurrent remote jobs

2 are with defense contractors

1 defense contractor was traditional charging a government contract

The other defense contractor I was on their internal R&D and charged overhead, not any government contract. Though recently I switched to a gov contract with them the past 6 months, so I’ve been working days and nights recording my time meticulously, working one 5am to 1pm and the other 2pm to 10pm. I have hand written records on my time keeping.

3 commercial jobs that are so easy, they can all be done on Fridays and the weekend.

I want to be very clear, I understand that charging government contracts at the same time is NOT ok. And I don’t do that. And I have records to prove I don’t do that, but I did not disclose to any of my employers that I am over employed.

Am I cooked for a reinvestigation for a secret clearance? I can back all of what I am saying with my records but am obviously concerned…. Thank you in advance for hearing me out.

Just to be a nit-picker… actually IR&D does get charged to the government, albeit indirectly. IR&D is a form of overhead, and that overhead gets spread across all the contracts.

Other than that, it may not be a big issue. But as I always point out, you also need to get approval from the employers (or at least make them aware of it). That may come up during the interview.

So to be more specific, it’s not an IRAD that’s developing tech for the government. It’s an actual IRAD to transform business processes within the company.

And to be clear, I have NOT told any of my other companies about the other. Though through a security clearance investigation I wouldn’t care if they were revealed because I care more about going into the military and that be me career. Does this change anything?

I would have to defer to one of the investigators who check these forums. I know that some companies are very strict about this, and even some who are not so strict want to be informed of any outside employment.

Reporting additional employment to your clearance holder is required and not reporting it is considered a violation and could jeopardize your clearance.

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Ok understand. Though we have investigators saying the issue with OE is time card fraud and stealing time. But you’re saying not reporting the company to my clearance hold is going to make me lose my clearance. Can I get some clarification on this?

Oh I thought you were an investigator :sob: definitely would appreciate foresight from an investigator. To add, I’ve only been doing this for 6 months so I can quit if this behavior is not acceptable for a security clearance.

No, not an investigator, just someone who has been around the cleared world longer than I’d care to admit :slight_smile: I’ve worked closely with security folks including some investigators over the years but I myself am not an investigator or FSO.

I am an investigator. I answered your question. If you don’t believe me then read SEAD 4 for yourself Guideline L: Outside Activities. It is required to report. Will you 100% lose your clearance? I don’t know. Could you? Yes, because you broke the rules.

Thank you for that. I just quit one of the DoD contractor jobs and am in the process of quitting the other. I’ve learned my lesson here and really don’t want to lose my clearance. Can this mitigate my issue? What else can I do?

I don’t know, I’m not an adjudicator. If you’re going to hold a clearance though, you need to know the rules and abide by them.

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Quitting now may help but it doesn’t change the past and you still have the same issue.

Did you ever tell the job you kept about the others you quit?

The OP will lose his clearance because of his username.

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I’m not keeping either of the DoD contracting jobs I quit them both, it is too close to home and I care more about my clearance and cleaning up this mess…