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@Fed Investigator

Before they were all out of work. Now they are back working a 12/6, “40-hour/week” :wink: job.

I suspect they’ll be flocking back here with the massive changes coming down soon in the industry.

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Does anyone have any information as to how long it takes to get a start date once you have accepted the offer from Keypoint and completed the drug test?

 

Still waiting on a start date and it’s been over a week since I accepted Keypoint’s offer.

Hackett

 

Did you fill out and fax back all of the paperwork that came with the offer(i.e. W4, emp. application, all items that came on attached checklist)? It was about 1-1/2 weeks later that I received a start date.

@northstar

 

all I got was a signed offer letter and the drug consent forms. I have not got the. Application or other employment forms, I’m not sure why but maybe that will come soon.

Deed,

 

I just reviewed the email again. What you need to do is read the email that contained the offer letter. In the body of the email is a link that takes you to the KeyPoint new hire website. The log in and password are in the email. There is a checklist of forms that need to be filled out and faxed back. Let me know if that works.

So apparently they forgot to send me a link to fill out those forms. I’m sending it in tonight. All my coworkers mainly are going to caci I hope I made the right choice.

@deedisdone, did you converse with your co-workers as to why they were all going that route? It seems strange that many of them are going there yet you decided to go a different direction. I myself will be linking back up with my old FI teammates and my old TL at CACI. The process there has been smooth. Received an email for drug test then 2 days later received email for in process. Completed first part and 2nd part is tomorrow. I then begin working! Yeah to paychecks! :slight_smile: Just make sure you realize that you can still make the decision to change your mind. Also, if you are looking for a bump in pay, attend one of CACI’s Open Houses in your area. I’ve heard of folks receiving higher offers there. That goes for the rest of you on the forum.

Well I had the offer before the TL decided to try and keep the team in tact. I cant prove it but i have a feeling the TL will get some kind of bonus or incentive for bringing whole teams to caci. The health benefits for family are cheaper based on the plan in taking with keypoint, and I mean way cheaper. If I was single I definitely would go with caci because its unbelievably cheap for a single person. I do know a good amount of coworkers though going to key point too so I wouldn’t say overwhelming but I do know caci is seeking out almost complete teams and it seems as key point is being selective . I have a really good tl so if it doesn’t work out with key point I have an opening. At this point I gotta go with my decision and I don’t want to burn any bridges with kwupoint by backing out of a signed offer. I plan on working hard and being successful at my new job and excited to start

Well folks - it seems than many have made their decision. CACI or Keypoint. Personally I do not see much difference and made my decision primarily on the hourly wage with adds up to over $4100 more with Keypoint. CACI did not even match my salary and I was only making 50k with USIS. I still question the CACI decision to go after team leaders and using them to influence their team. I have had good and bad team leaders over the five years but none of them had ever shown any concern for my well being and only spouted the company line that helped exasperate the poor morale. None of the my former TL’s have had any true management experience outside of USIS and most were promoted because no one else wanted the job. I have seen many supervisors in my 35 years of LE and military and was one for over 25 years, so I think I have the creds to be critical. USIS is undoubtedly the most mismanaged organization I ever had the experience of working with and to blindly take team leaders leaves me with a bad feeling about CACI’s decision making process. It looks like they are rushing into this just to get a bigger piece of the pie, regardless.

That being said - I wish everyone good luck with their new employer and hope that both CACI & Keypoint realize they are getting good, honest, responsible employees who have proven their integrity and dedication throughout the years.

@deedisdone81

At this point I gotta go with my decision and I don’t want to burn any bridges with kwupoint by backing out of a signed offer. I plan on working hard and being successful at my new job and excited to start

Dude, do everything in your power to get on w/ CACI. Otherwise be prepared to work 70 hours per week to meet 70% of your assigned work ACD’s and be constantly unsure if you will get fired or demoted for not meeting expectations. Be prepared for constantly changing (tweeking) metrics and schemes from management to “improve” the way things are done. Bonuses have become impossible to get and have been reduced significantly in amount. Significantly. Really, while you can, do whatever you need to do to get on with CACI. Or maybe you liked how things were done at USIS, in which case ignore my comments.

FYI - CACI has decided to grant your vacation time based on the number of years you have been working on the contract. So if your like myself more than five years on the contract you will start with 3 weeks vacation instead of the 2 weeks they were previously offering everyone.

 

Also CACI is saying three week turn around please don’t believe them in all honesty it’s about a six week process from start to finish. It goes fast some days and then dead silence for a couple of days. Not a bad thing just don’t let anyone trick you into thinking this will only be a three week process. I signed my offer letter 8/13 and my start date is 9/29 and I have done everything they asked usually on the same day it was requested.

@Toby

 

I fully expect to work hard at Keypoint, and I would take the same attitude if I chose CACI. I’ve always been a high performer, and I produce high quality reports. Personally I don’t think CACI or Keypoint wants to be in the mess USIS is in, so I think things will be different from here on out no matter which company you choose. I got a really good vibe after speaking with Mr. Eric Hess, and the program director on the OPM contract, and I have faith that the problems towards the end of last year have been taken on by the new leadership in place. Also, I kind of agree with REGINV, if CACI is super desperate to take on full teams regardless of what kind of investigators are on the team, and so willing to swallow up TL’s, and other leadership, they may become more like USIS than Keypoint in the long run. Either way, I;ve made my decision and I’m sticking with it, I feel great things are on the horizon.

@deedisdone81

Best of luck to you. Sounds like you’d be successful no matter what company you go with or what job you undertake. KGS is fortunate you chose them.

Still, I think the people who chose CACI will probably have a better life after the first six months.

Scorecard - of the 6 FI in my org - 2 to CACI and 4 to Keypoint with the TL going to CACI. The TL called a select few but none went with him.

First day with Keypoint will be 9/24 and I’m excited to start earning income again!

Did anyone get USIS recent announcement email today? If you read closely there was not even a THANK YOU for the many employees that gave many years of their lives if not decades of service to this organization and company. USIS did call us dedicated employees though…I guess I can feel good about myself now. By the way all of those rumors about a possible severance……kiss that dream goodbye.

 

Here we have USIS that cannot get out of it’s own way the last 2 to 3 years or longer with their poor business decisions and unethical behavior and they have a chance to FINALLY get something right and really show their employees that they care by giving them a severance package or even a paragraph dedicated to their service and recognizing what we have did for this place would be at least something….however, we cannot even get a thank you from senior leadership. It’s no wonder this place went down in flames and they have FINALLY proven to all of us by saying and doing nothing for their employees in our time of crisis these last two months that they truly do not care about any of us and we were nothing more to them than a SID or a number.

 

Thank you USIS for leading me down a path of career suicide.

 

Good riddance…USIS. May you rot in hell.

Does anyone know what the employee handbook stated in regards to severance? Kind of starting to wonder about the legalities and what else USIS may be trying to weasel out of, as I’m hearing of people being pressured for resignation letters. Why would anyone sign a resignation letter that could mess with their unemployment or potential access to a severance if (per chance) any future litigation forced them to have to pay severances?

Be careful, as I got a feeling they’re taking nastiness to the very bitter end!

@Edwardian, The “announcement” was merely a way to get those pesky little HR questions out of the way. They never gave the investigators or reviewers any respect even though we were 100% driving the revenue. All the threats and rants about protecting PII and in the end they compromised national security at the corporate level by their ineptness. I only hope the same useless managers, including the TL’s who were nothing more than highly overpaid admins and puppets, don’t follow us to our new employers. USIS. You gotta give them credit. Has any company ever come up with as many excuses as they did for not giving merit increases??? I wonder if they laughed about it and how stupid they must have thought we all were. Here’s to us…the best investigators in the industry with the brightest of futures ahead of us! USIS, not so much.

Any chance you could post the USIS email here? I have not had emails since 8/6/14. I have a silent TL who is not sharing information. I learned I was out of a job in this forum.