So here is my situation, I am trying to start working on a contract in the DoD. I just tried to crossover my clearence, but it was denied because there was an open investigation/unadjudicated info on my clearence. I talked to my hiring companies security rep, and they told me that there was a 2022 poly that was open. I remembered what poly they were reffering to, and it was for the NSA. The good news is that I reached out to the NSA and I got into contact with them. They told me my case is scheduled to close out.
My question is this. How long does/should this take and if my crossover gets denied again, what are my options to getting this resolved so I can successfully cross my clearence over. I was also wondering if different agencies or contracts would deny my crossover for the same reason.
I had a similar issue as a contractor . I could not find out what the unadjudicated information was and the customer said that if I wanted to work there again I had to have an initial Full Scope done. It took me 6 months to find another sponsor. It has been 9 months since I filled out the SF86 and I am still waiting for it to be final. In the mean time I still had to work so I went over to the DOD and they accepted a 10 year old background and Full Scope and I was able to get a job that way. The DOD started a PR investigation after a couple of months of working there. I am also waiting on that as well. Since only 1 investigation can happen at a time I do not which background investigation will “win” but this can work out.
Once any background investigation is open…if you go elsewhere, they see unadjudicated info. It really is a neutral term. It just means party B cannot see what party A collected. And until an adjudicator looks and decides? It is “unadjudicated.” Sadly in the 3 letter world it moves at glacial speed. Being told it will close out shortly…is usually a “kick can down road” answer. In other words they are saying let the system work till you come out of the grind. But do wait, see if it closes, expect positive outcome (unless you know there is a big bad thing). Meanwhile, missing opportunities is a downside.
Sarah is spot on. If one loses contract coverage or leaves DoD with a started BI…it lingers. All cleared agencies treat it as if Nacs were completed and somebody knows if there is…or is not a concern there. So a complete initial must launch to pull all levers and dive deeper than a PR. Not exactly sure how far the last BI got. Open for 1 minute? Everyone assumes there may be items of interest. Truly it should be easier. Any agency should be able to take possession wherever it ended. Theoretically it is. In practice I find them in the minority particularly Intel and 3 letters as you cant communicate direct with clearance department. If it moved to adjudication, less than 6 months.
They don’t necessarily find out, but its possible. For instance if you were in clearance upgrade, getting clise and I checked our TS clearance database on the regular, I would see a new BI was open, if same agency. I have seen a few, but maintained confidence with the employee that I had zero obligation to the company to inform them of a legal, moral, or ethical situation. I could even tell the employee when each gets adjudicated. You can remain working for company A, while waiting to see if you successfully crossed over to company B. And contrary to what some post you can exist in the DoD database, and your Intel community ones may list in their database, along with DoD info. I always told folks wait until you are formally notified you crossed over before tendering notice. And dont be surprised if company declines keeping you for 2 more weeks.
I got my TS/SCI from DCSA. I then got my CI poly with an IC DoD agency. I beileve my clearence is in JPAS and DISS. Would you know if I go to any employer will my crossover always be denied?
You won’t have anything in JPAS because it was phased out and replaced by DISS a few years ago. I’m afraid you’ll get the same notice regarding “open investigation/unadjudicated info” with any crossover you attempt.
That being said, you’ll only have this problem for crossovers. If you get a job with the same agency that currently holds your clearance, you shouldn’t have any problems because you’re not crossing anything over. Let’s say you’re currently working on an NGA contract for some employer. If you go to different employer but also for the NGA, you’d be fine.
The only way to fix this problem is to have a new adjudication completed with the newly obtained information. Even if one thing has changed since, such as a new address or foreign contact, you’d need it considered. It might not require a whole new adjudication, but someone still needs to approve it. This usually happens during the continuous evaluation (CE) process, or when you start work on a new contract with the same employer, and they’re willing to wait while adjudications finishes. Otherwise, not many companies are willing to hire you and wait for that process to complete.
Would you know, by any chance, if I will be notified when my case is closed. I am in the process for another crossover. My employer notified me two weeks ago that they submitted me for crossover and they claimed that it would take one to two weeks. I have not heard anything from them, so I am assuming that it at least has not been denied. Do you know of any way I can check to see if the info has been adjudicated/closed out?
If getting a TS/SCI for the first time and your TS is adjudicated successfully, would you be able to put TS on your resume while you wait for the SCI? Could you crossover the TS if another company is willing to hire you?
Your FSO would be the best POC for this. They’d know whether your clearance has crossed over successfully or not. I’d say it’s less dependent on the NSA case still being open, and more on whether they’ve adjudicated the new info.
If this is a contractor role, then yes. You can take the TS anywhere as soon as you get it.
I’d recommend you wait for the SCI eligibility because most TS jobs will require it anyway. Even if they don’t need it to start, they’ll put you in for it as soon as possible. If you wait for it now, it’ll save you the hassle later.