Each of those communities believe only “they” do it right and all others in those communities are “wrong.” I would think if you Poly twice in March, you will move to adjudication or have a follow up interview, then adjudication…I have waited roughly 5 months after poly one to be be told “come back for more fun.” And then about 30 days after the final Poly, a final phone call interview, and then I was re-cleared. Grand total of time was right at 18 months or so. So no not another 18 months, but after the first Poly you can easily still have 6 months.
Amber . . . I doubt that they think of it as “right” and “wrong” but it’s about concentration. Each agency has issues that they want addressed in different ways for different potential jobs.
Point taken. Having listened to each state “everyone should see the importance of X…” so I also think there is a lot of turf battle as well, human nature being what it is. But I understand what you are saying. DoD will move lightening fast on military clearances compared to some of the three letters. Is it a more thorough vetting, large amount of data to sift through…?
I think with the military, they are confident that they have a little more control over uniformed personnel than civilians (government employees and contractors). And even though most military don’t require a poly, I think they will get one if they are assigned to an IC agency.
Many years ago, when the world was still young (or at least I was), DIA would send imagery analysts to go work in CIA spaces at NPIC. They had to get the CIA poly. And every once in while, after failing to pass the poly, somebody would leave DIA and end up as a company commander at a basic training unit somewhere
What’s the longest wait time we’ve seen so far?
I’m approaching 1000 days since application. 900 days COE, 700 days since Poly.
This is getting a little ridiculous, no?
Yes it is. Which organization? Do you have a POC there you can contact?
Wait . . . You APPLIED for the job 1000 days ago . . . You received an OFFER 900 days ago and your poly about two year ago. It doesn’t matter, as far as your clearance goes when you applied or when you received your job offer.
The clearance process didn’t start until your prospective employer submitted your SF86 for processing.
Those stuck in adjudication for this length of time would surely know what items exist in their closet. Unless it is as one thread suggested people talking of a felony family assault that is a complete fabrication to the applicant. But we are always in the dark if the sponsor pulled back the package and didn’t tell the applicant. I think we all could use a dose of transparency in being able to see if we are still in the system and moving forward. It does a disservice to all if we must file FOI requests to see where we are.
SF-86 submitted Oct '16…Investigation open since Nov '16
Yeah, I know.
I submitted final, corrected SF-86 in January 2017. Still, an absurd length of time.
A good FSO would push the client for updates after 19 months or so. If this is a contract position they should reach back to the client for assistance.
Any advice for someone in an IC appeal process for guideline H?
The mitigating factors are basically time and/or treatment. It depends on what you did, when, how old your were, if there is one “why” you did what you did.
Was there an arrest? Do you still associate with the same people?
Some IC agencies may have a “zero tolerance” on drug use.
4 years next month since I sent in my SF-86. Been through all interview and visits years ago. There was some movement and contact last October. Pretty much silence since then. Good luck in your process!
You and I are about right on the money for the same timeline. Submitted SF86 in '16 but didn’t have BI until couple months ago and received office assignment last month. I’ve been a clearance holder for years and am fortunate to be able actually see my clearance status on a routine basis without going through my POC. Odd thing is that my BI from a few months ago is already adjudicated and the date has been updated in the system showing a new adjudication date, yet no final offer in sight.
Is this for a TS/SCI?
I’m also a federal direct hire, first time clearer. Things were “supposed” to move faster, but this particular agency seems to pride themselves on making you wait.
Yup. Same thing minus first time clearance holder. Let me dispell the myth of having a clearance automatically makes things faster.
So I did my first poly and as you can imagine was extremely nervous. Results came back inconclusive and the frustrated interviewer offered a retest.
Background: I applied when I was in between jobs. I later got a job that required a secret clearance which I got from the military. My question is if I turn down the poly retest for the IC, will anything be disrupted from my current clearance? Or should I continue with the retest?
If you take the retest, because of polygraphy’s lack of scientific underpinnings, you risk either failing or worse, being accused of having used polygraph countermeasures. Either outcome would have deleterious effects for your current clearance.