SCI Denial Next Steps

Hi CJB Friends,

I have been a long-time lurker here and have gotten a lot of reassurance during my clearance process. I’m in a situation I haven’t seen covered on any of the forums I have searched, so I was hoping to get some clarity. I accepted a CJO with an IC agency and they started work on my clearance. Towards the end of the process, I received a job offer from a contractor willing to sponsor me for the same clearance level. I explained to them that I was already in process with the IC agency and was nearing the end so there was no reason to start another investigation. However, about a month ago, I received a document that said after an adjudicative review of information from my case “it may preclude me from being granted access to Sensitive Compartmented Information”. They mentioned that under personal conduct they decided to flag my clearance application, and I decided not to appeal it and withdrew. About a week later the contracting company asked if I was still interested in the position and said, “Looks like your clearance process is going well and you got your TS we are just waiting on the SCI”. I know that the IC agency isn’t going to finish off the SCI since I withdrew my application. Should I explain my situation to the FSO and try to get my SCI sponsored through the contractor? Should I wait till it reflects in DISS instead and ask then? Will the SCI cause the TS to nullify and should I give up and move on?

Thank you.

That wording is kinda weird but as the man said, it is what it is.

Sometimes an agency will clear a contractor that they might not clear as a staff hire. I’d let the contractor job application process continue, you may still get the SCI on the contractor side.

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Thanks for posting that. But it was not exactly a denial? Maybe you were right to withdraw before it got to the official denial phase.

I was at a contractor where I worked on a job that was at the secret level, but the follow-on contract was going to require SCI access. Some people had issues getting that clearance, and our FSO somehow got the word or just knew that there was going to be a denial and she advised folks to withdraw before the formal denial notification came.

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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a letter like that. Anyone else seen this?

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You “may” get cleared for SCI from another agency, say you applied with CIA and then went DOD. BUT, and this is just an assumption, If this is your first clearance, then it may preclude you. Don’t tell the contractor anything, if they want to proceed, let them. They may not ever hear anything about your withdrawal.

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Good Evening CJB Friends,

Appreciate all the help and responses I got previously. I wanted to post an update to my situation. I was successfully able to get the SCI at the other agency with no problems and have been working here for the last year. Recently I decided to switch teams and am in the process of internally transferring and that team happens to work for the previous agency I had issues with. I was really looking forward to join this team but I received an email today stating that those issues need to be adjudicated before I can crossover and that could take upwards of a year. The team understandably doesn’t want to proceed unless I commit on staying with this company and don’t start looking elsewhere. I’m planning on letting them know I’m not going to proceed to save everyone the headache and want the flexibility of going elsewhere but interested to hear others experiences. If I do decide to adjudicate and leave for a different company will that negatively affect my clearance? (LOJ)

Thanks!

@naughtypetey Appreciate the insight into LOJ. My issue was something dumb I said during the magic box test. I recently spoke with a clearance lawyer and he said that it shouldn’t be a huge issue and writing a statement to the adjudicators should allow me to regain SCI approval at this agency. However I decided to withdraw from the process today, I don’t plan on sticking around at this company for much longer and don’t want my clearance to enter LOJ land. Read through your situation I don’t see how any of that would be a security issue but what do I know… I hope your adjudication decision is favorable and you hear something soon!

I see - unless your clearance is attached to a program it’s automatically LOJ? Is it worse if it enters this state during an investigation, or is it the same?

I once worked at a place where we had lots of TS/SCI work. That worked dried up, we had to read people off/debrief them… BUT the company did not have to “LOJ” because they still held our clearances. Those folks retained their eligibility but were not “active” on any programs.

If that doesn’t make sense just go with what @naughtypetey said.