Sf-85p Employment Section?

[Anonymous45]

I have an SF-85P renewal coming up next year, and I’m trying to figure out if I need to repeat previously reported information.

On my current SF-85P, under the employment section, I reported the following:

In 2015 (which will be 10 years ago by the time of renewal), I was terminated from federal employment while applying to another agency. During that process, I experienced discrimination and was offended by something the EEO Director said to me. In response, I made an offensive comment, which led to the FBI visiting my home for questioning. Nothing came of the investigation, and the statute of limitations has passed. I was never arrested or referred for prosecution.

In 2018 (which will be 7 years & 4 months ago at the time of renewal), I was terminated during my probation period.

Specifically, I’m confused about Sections 13A, 13B, and 13C.

In 2015, I was terminated from federal employment, but this was reported in my last SF-85P. Since this happened nearly 10 years ago, do I need to report it again? Section 13A asks for employment history from the past 7 years, so I believe this falls outside the timeline.

However, Section 13B asks about former federal employment not previously listed, and I’m unsure if I need to include that same federal job again, even though it’s outside the 7-year scope.

Lastly, Section 13C asks about employment-related issues within the last 7 years, such as terminations or other disciplinary actions. Since my termination was over 7 years ago, I assume I wouldn’t need to mention it here.

Could someone clarify how to handle this situation? Do I need to report the 2015 and 2018 termination anywhere in the SF-85P renewal?

[investigator721]

A & C require 7 years. B is any federal civilian employment ever. No time limit.

[Anonymous45]

I saw this post

@Marko

Anything that happened over 9 years ago is mitigated as long as there is not a more recent history of similar behavior. If the employment was within the last 10 years you will have to list it and the reason for leaving. If outside the 10 years you would still list it in section 13B but it does not require you to list the reason for leaving or ask about disciplinary issues.My advice is to read each question carefully to ensure you understand what is being asked and just be truthful and up front about it. Your termination in and of itself will not be an issue, but if you try to hide it then it will be an honesty issue.

Source: TS After Resignation in Lieu of Termination from Federal Law Enforcement - #3 by Drewm77

My question for 13B

Is that you would only enter, and nothing else regarding why you were terminated?

1. Provide dates of federal civilian employment. From Date (Month/Year) Est. To Date (Month/Year) Present Est.

2. Provide the name of the federal agency for which you are/were employed.

3. Provide your position title.

4. Provide the location of the agency. (Provide City and Country if outside the United States; otherwise, provide City, State and Zip Code.) Street City State Zip Code

[investigator721]

Yes that is correct.

[HR2C]

You need to list everything within the coverage dates which for employment on an SF85 is 7 years. If something is more than 7 years, don’t list it. The instructions are pretty simple and straightforward. Follow the directions. For the employments that require listing, when asked if you were fired, answer honestly for that employment. I am not sure why so many people have a hard time with the instructions. Employment is 7 years and former federal employment is all former federal employment that was not listed in the above, 7 year, question. None of these instructions say anything about employments listed in previous investigations are exempt. Why is this even a question?