Thanks! Yeah not finding out they have a 4 year probationary period until orientation was a shock.
Adding this here as well,
I overheard two folks talking on my campus shuttle ride today, who talked to a recruiter, that they are not progressing the candidates past their current stages. So if they are in processing for polygraph, they will get that completed, but not move forward from there and will stay in a holding pattern. Same for whatever other stage or section the candidates are in.
It’s hearsay and anecdotal, but I can certainly see that being the case.
Oh great. I wonder if that might have to do with the looming shutdown or whether it’s something long term. And what about those of us who are waiting for their EOD to be scheduled? (rhetorical question)
I heard from an insider back in February that all CJOs were to be honored, meaning no rescinding, but that’s old news now.
Yeah man, it’s the wild west right now. Shutdown threat would make sense to me, but who knows. Try to stay positive, almost impossible I know. I’m hoping that folks that completed everything will still get that EOD. I know for a fact that they are still doing the candidate security appointments, I was in that building today and saw a bunch of candidates there.
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Thank you for the words of encouragement. I’m trying. I drive past that building daily but instead of excitement I feel my stomach tighten every time I see it. I’m thinking about checking in with my PO but she probably won’t know either or, if she does, she won’t be able to tell me.
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Anyone here get a mass email yesterday about a hiring freeze at Meade?
I had a start date of 03/24 and already put in notice at my current gig, but now my recruiter says they are “awaiting further guidance” about whether I’ll be able to start or not.
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That sucks. Sorry to hear. Note to all: For the foreseeable future, Do not give notice at your current job until you actually start your new job!!
As if people are not supposed to give a two-week notice? Or worse yet, give their former company a one-day notice? How would that work, exactly?
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Not sure about Federal, but 2 weeks notice is not “required” in the private sector. It’s just proper etiquette. But these days, that is out the window. You do what you need to. Remember, your company would happily cut you to the curb without a second thought.
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I mean I understand how cutthroat companies can be but if you’re in good standing, wherever you are at, offering less than two weeks notice is risky. It’s definitely contextual, however. And I’ll concede that the current climate facilitates some difficult decisions. Quitting suddenly, however, can introduce bigger problems. It just requires careful consideration.
If you quit your job without giving notice, the company can say that you “abandoned” your job. Job Abandonment could be an issue for a subsequent security investigation (if such a thing happens anymore) if the company tells this to the investigator. I don’t know if this is really a problem, or whether you could mitigate it by adding a comment to your next SF-86.
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I had an eod of 3/10 and gave my employer a 28 hour notice and had mine delayed. Really no good options here
The security clearance implications were part of the reason I said quitting suddenly can introduce bigger problems, which is also why I didn’t wholly agree with the mentality of the person to which I replied. Telling people to quit suddenly because companies don’t care about you is not a good mindset. Again, another reason I didn’t agree with the aforementioned mindset.
Weigh the risks. What is more likely to cause you to become unemployed right now? Giving very short notice? Or trusting federal agencies to stand by their hiring process (which seems to be changing by the hour)?
Yes, short notice would have been bad form 6 months ago. Now, I truly believe you can’t trust them enough to take that chance. But, you do you. Best of luck.
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I think this is intriguing and a great thing to ponder. It makes me think how complicated things could possibly get without giving the ‘standard’ 2 week notice:
Government CIV positions aside, I think it could possibly be different based on different companies, different supervisors.
Lets say someone does give 2 days notice that they’re quitting their private sector job via email notice, and this ruffles the feathers of the supervisor and documents it within company records as “job abandonment”.
Years down the road, an investigator contacts the company for verification and is notified of the company’s record of job abandonment, theoretically the investigator would bring this up as a potential red flag.
One might assume that the email kept as record of notification would dispel (assuming job abandonment would be considered literal ‘no call, no show, no notifying of intent to quit’) any concerns?
Just thinking out loud and of course there’s quite a lot of variables that could happen to anyone.
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MD agency. Inquired with the employee relations team and “was found to not meet the *** standards of employment due to information obtained during the polygraph”. RIP.
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That sucks man, sorry to hear it.
Thank you for sharing and again, sorry you had to go through all the hassle for nothing. It sounds though like the typical suitability brush off when they don’t have enough to deny you and want to close the case without the risk of facing appeal - a very convenient solution in the time of hiring freeze.
Just got notified that my FJO was rescinded this morning. My recruiter mentioned that all job offers will be rescinded across the board, in case anyone hasn’t heard anything yet.
So sorry to hear and very much appreciate you sharing. Did they give you any hope of a possible reinstatement at a later date? That is the MD agency, correct?
I can’t believe national security workforce is getting decimated like this with so many people’s careers destroyed. I’m bracing for the other agency to be next.