400+ days candidates, how are you holding up?


august 2016 was interviewed by December 2016 all my references contacted and file went up
and on november2017 an sor was sent to me to fill up and on February contacted by an attorney
that she will will send me a package to bring to hearing now 04/18 nothing being sent and just waiting who to contact ? what to do?


You have a hearing scheduled for 4/18 and you don’t have a copy of the government’s case? Show up at the hearing and tell the judge that they have not provided you with documentation of the issues being presented against you.

Better yet . . . Show up with a lawyer . . .


I interviewed for a IC position in Feb. 2015 and received a COE in April 2015. Already completed BI (2016) , poly/phych stuff (2015). I last had to send some information in October 2017. Tick tock tick tock :slight_smile: Good luck to the rest of you guys still waiting.


Today marks my 400 day! I am finally in the club! I cannot believe I am saying this! Well, I guess soon you will have to make a 500+ club!


Weird question/situation: I was previously diagnosed as alcohol dependent BUT my treatment recommendations only involved moderated consumption. With the new Adjudicative Guidelines that now use alcohol use disorder as opposed to abuse/dependence, what’s the deal with this situation? I’m completely confused.


I think if you are complying with treatment recommendations, and you don’t have any incidents, then it should be OK. But I am by no means an expert.


You have a treatment plan that involves “moderate consumption” . . . That doesn’t sound like “normal and customary” treatment and MAY not be considered enough by an adjudicator.


True, I did find that a little strange but it says what it says. From the Guideline G section:

“(d) the individual has successfully completed a treatment program along with any required aftercare, and has demonstrated a clear and established pattern of modified consumption or abstinence in accordance with treatment recommendations.”

This guidance does not distinguish between abuse and dependence. Now it is an “alcohol use disorder.”


For an IC position, my timeline is approximately 1000 days since I submitted my application and 570 days since my BI commenced.


Also for an IC position, I’m over 700 days since I sent back the SF86 and accepted offer.


Is this as a fed or contractor? And are you on a interim?


fed hire, no interim.


The clubhouse is getting full


A little over 700 days since I sent back initial SF-86; amended version around 600 days.

So guess I’m not quite into 700 day territory, but boy this is annoying.


I’m close to 730 days since my SF-86 was submitted. Investigation is still open I think.


For those over 700 days, how confident are you that you’ll eventually get a start date? I have nothing in my past/present that could restrict me from any security clearance whatsoever, yet this ridiculous process makes me think otherwise.


I’m confident I will eventually get a start date. I guess a grouchy adjudicator could say, “Hey, this guy has some minor issues, nothing too big, but screw him anyway” and deny me. More likely, I feel like they’ll find someone more qualified to fill the position. The real fear I think is that the process just drags out for another year or two, because somehow I’m a marginal candidate that is easily replaceable so they don’t feel a need to get around to me.

I’d say around 85%.


Everyone is replaceable, though. And if they are just going to keep everyone waiting until their “dream candidate” comes through, they’re going to be waiting a long time to find that person. And then what happens when that person leaves to the private sector? I’ve thought the same thing. I didn’t feel like I was the most qualified person when they gave me the offer, but who really does?


I feel so bad for so many of us here. Very disheartening, cruel even.


Yeah, luckily unemployment, particularly among the types of people who would be qualified to work in the IC, is low enough that ordinary rubes like ourselves stand a good shot.

It just drives me insane not knowing. I wonder how much the delay in adjudication is driven by lack of open positions vs. a huge backlog vs. something else. It’s a very arcane, frustrating process which only gets worse the nearer you get to finally receiving an answer after all of these years.